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Dąεŋεŗγş Sŧσŗɱɓσŗŋ ([personal profile] thebrideoffire) wrote in [community profile] eastbound2022-05-12 11:42 am

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There is a great deal to discuss. Wrathion has provided much of the news that I have learned, but there are two further pieces of information that I feel is relevant. The last sacrifice to Sanwon was the child of Hyang-Won and Anui. She seems to have been from Waicai and while she moved past her beliefs, it never fully disappeared.

When the volcano started to heat again and it was time for someone to go, she gave her child. He was the last sacrifice. She waited until Hyang-Won was at hunt. When he returned and found his son gone, he was frantic and angry. He disappeared into the woods where a man that Hyang-Tai calls 'the Traveler' followed to calm him. It's not known what was spoken of, but apparently when Hyang-Won returned, he was changed, as were his beasts. They became as they are now. Not creatures of the woods.

Anui was gone and the villages were quiet. I think it may be possible that whatever curses this place is related to that and perhaps to the traveler. He is the reason for the House of Ravens, those that go in but never come out.

It might be possible to find a way to undo this curse, as we have had to undo the curses of ancestors here, but I am not certain how.

I do ask that someone accompany me to the House of Ravens, but only those that may wish to know more. I made a promise that I must fulfill and it may offer more answers.
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[personal profile] scrapgege 2022-05-12 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
[Xie Lian is kind of glad this is only voice, and he sounds calm, but the mention of this Traveler, that he has heard called the 'man in white', makes him uneasy. A silhouette dressed in white, bringing both boon and chaos... There might be a slight tremor in his voice.]

The Traveler... could he have been the one to change him? Made him what he is now? We still haven't had any clues as to how these people got to be what they are...
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[personal profile] beitangmoran 2022-05-12 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
We're working on finding our way inside.

Given what we now know of the Beastmaster, I don't think he likes the place overly much, but this... Traveler seems to have his fingers in many pies, and he can calm him down and was there when he changed into what he is now?

[New target acquired. This Traveler fellow seems to know a lot and manipulate powerful forces.]

What promise did you make?
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[personal profile] chosenbylight 2022-05-12 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Did they pursue the boy all the way to the House of Ravens? Is that what changed the man Hyang-Won into what we know him to be now? Something in the temple itself?
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Is "The Traveller" another term for the White Wanderer? Sounds similar enough to be.  
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[personal profile] chosenbylight 2022-05-12 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I am now coming to understand, based on Wrathion's conversation with the Huntress, the House of Ravens was the traditional method of sacrifice. I had thought, when the villagers spoke of giving to Brother Sanwon, they meant literally.

I am not certain that giving a child to this temple is a better fate, in the end.

But what does the White Wanderer do, with his tributes? The Beastmaster does not approve of sacrifice, and no wonder after what happened to his son, so it cannot be that.
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I only ask because previous understanding was The White Wanderer established an alternative to the House of Ravens, so it's worth discerning if this is a different take on the same individual or a different individual altogether.  
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[personal profile] chosenbylight 2022-05-12 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not know that we can be so quick to judge her, if those were the customs of the village where she was from. While I do not approve of the methods myself... Even now, here in Ke-Waihu, where I understand they are less stringent in their following of the local customs, the people are still deeply superstitious in their beliefs.

The young jeweler, who we rescued from sacrifice himself. He told us that they would always sacrifice to the mountain, just before it began to heat too much. That they have not given it anything for years. How many years, I wonder -- since the White Wanderer offered them their alternative, perhaps?
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Then that individual, as I understood it, offered a cure -- the cure that becomes the black water when it melts. And that individual disliked The House of Ravens, stood up alternative shrines, and offered alternative methods to that sacrifice -- for Waicai worshipped at the House of Ravens who offered tribute to the volcano, Sanwon. You believe what we have been told until now to be incorrect?  
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That is decidedly at odds with everything we understand. Well, beyond the serpent woman searching for a child. 
Edited (Not that bit though ) 2022-05-12 19:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Recall carefully exactly her words. The same Seer told Anduin The White Wanderer provided the cure, and the dark waters followed it -- which we have confirmed is due to the heat melting it. I have personally experienced this. 
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That reads to me as if the White Wanderer is the person she spoke of. That he brought the cure and perhaps made a deal with the Beastmaster, which resulted in his change. Maybe the cure and the alternative to the sacrifice he lost his son to were in exchange for something, something that changed the Beastmaster. Hyang-Tai previously specifically said the cure they were offered had 'depowered' after the heating caused by the volcano, so perhaps she meant they were unrelated to the serpent woman searching for her child?
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that the cure he offered turns to dark water when heated, and dark water makes a mirror in the volcano, if a deal was made with the White Wanderer for both it would make sense he put the dark water there as some sort of alternative way to placate the volcano in place of Waicai's House of Ravens. The same thing serving two functions: crop renewal and holding back the volcano. It seems as if for the villages it had mostly worked apart from when the heat was too much, however the Beastmaster does appear to have paid a price if his change was a result -- and now obviously the result wears thin. It has only lasted a few years, it wasn't permanent.
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[personal profile] blackscales 2022-05-12 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If this entire place is destroyed by a volcano I doubt placation would do him any good.

The obvious solution would be to help him search for his son, however if his son is dead no doubt he'll be even more upset upon finding out. We cannot know either way until the house opens.

Undoing what was done to him, however, requires understanding what was done. We may need the White Wanderer for that. His shrines did help resist the Beastmaster's power. Perhaps there's a root there to helping restrain him, at the very least, if not undo what was done. Equally, water from Ke-Waiar helps when drunk. The signature felt the same to me, touched by the White Wanderer. Drinking some might help him, or it might undo him entirely -- all I know is it wards his gifts in others.

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